How many times should we rebuild southern Louisiana?
STANV said:
I am not a Christian but one could argue that not only is it not a necessity it might actually be a sin.
If you're defining Christianity as a set of actions aligning with beliefs, then you're probably least likely to find any Christians among those who most loudly proclaim Christianity as part of their identity.
PVW said:
STANV said:
I am not a Christian but one could argue that not only is it not a necessity it might actually be a sin.
If you're defining Christianity as a set of actions aligning with beliefs, then you're probably least likely to find any Christians among those who most loudly proclaim Christianity as part of their identity.
I think most evangelical Christians would disagree with that assessment, though I don't.
Where did they actually come from anyway? (off to the google....)
eta: yikes! that was more complicated than I expected.
STANV said:
I am not a Christian but one could argue that not only is it not a necessity it might actually be a sin.
I think some of us have jumped over socialism straight into communism. As far as I know, second homes are owned by folks of many faiths, or no faith at all. And surely sinners have as well.
tjohn said:
Tell me Mtierney, in what Christian world, where many people are struggling to meet basic needs, is a 2nd home a necessity?
Tell me Mtierney, why the lack of response to this post?
mtierney said:
My lack of response to most of your questions should be obvious, even to you.
Fox News hasn't told you what to say yet?
Steve said:
Fox News hasn't told you what to say yet?
No, she's a troll. Trolls toss stink bombs but never really try to defend their positions. And I understand that. You cannot be a true Christian and support the Republican Party. You can do so if you are a Christianist.
mtierney said:
I think some of us have jumped over socialism straight into communism. As far as I know, second homes are owned by folks of many faiths, or no faith at all. And surely sinners have as well.
Communism ...
mtierney said:
My lack of response to most of your questions should be obvious, even to you.
The question was posed by TJohn.
And yes, as to your lack of response to me (or anyone else for that matter), you are either unable to defend your conflicting positions or are not courageous enough to do so.
jimmurphy said:
The question was posed by TJohn.
And yes, as to your lack of response to me (or anyone else for that matter), you are either unable to defend your conflicting positions or are not courageous enough to do so.
She just trolling, it’s her way of getting back at the liberals who took over maplewood and caused her to move down the shore where her neighbors are not liberals. I’m amazed at how people here still keep engaging her.
Is she even wise enough to be a troll or is she simply regurgitating talking points being fed to her in the form of misinformation by Fox News, OANN, and the like? I actually have my doubts as I don't recall ever seeing even a single post from her that appeared to have any thought or analysis put into it.
Steve said:
Is she even wise enough to be a troll or is she simply regurgitating talking points being fed to her in the form of misinformation by Fox News, OANN, and the like? I actually have my doubts as I don't recall ever seeing even a single post from her that appeared to have any thought or analysis put into it.
That would fall into the “unable to defend your conflicting positions” option I mentioned.
Anyway, back to New Orleans. We will continue to build/rebuild in flood vulnerable areas until something fairly catastrophic happens (financial impact, that is) and then we will change. I guess this will be within the next ten years since we seem to be at a global warming tipping point.
Steve said:
Is she even wise enough to be a troll or is she simply regurgitating talking points being fed to her in the form of misinformation by Fox News, OANN, and the like? I actually have my doubts as I don't recall ever seeing even a single post from her that appeared to have any thought or analysis put into it.
She’s no dummy. She knows what gets the comments flowing, and mostly on her threads. She’s proud of her threads. It’s her daily fix to troll the liberals. Of course she’s watching OAN news, Fix not so much. The fact that we’re talking about her is kryptonite, which helps her arthritis.
Back to Louisiana, build a sea wall along the gulf coast. See the wall will help with the surges of water, and migrants who beach in small speedboats…
It is a genuine question. How much FEMA money per year is going to go to floods, fires, storms, etc. I want the government to help everyone who needs it, from the bottom up. That's why I'm against flood insurance for second homes. I don't want anyone who is truly strapped to be denied. I see on FB people filing claims for their basements and I wonder how many of them are going to post next month asking what island they should fly to for vacation because they are stressed. I hope there are income qualifications for aid.
DanDietrich said:
It is a genuine question. How much FEMA money per year is going to go to floods, fires, storms, etc. I want the government to help everyone who needs it, from the bottom up. That's why I'm against flood insurance for second homes. I don't want anyone who is truly strapped to be denied. I see on FB people filing claims for their basements and I wonder how many of them are going to post next month asking what island they should fly to for vacation because they are stressed. I hope there are income qualifications for aid.
So we're means testing disaster aid? Shameful!
Dennis_Seelbach said:
DanDietrich said:
It is a genuine question. How much FEMA money per year is going to go to floods, fires, storms, etc. I want the government to help everyone who needs it, from the bottom up. That's why I'm against flood insurance for second homes. I don't want anyone who is truly strapped to be denied. I see on FB people filing claims for their basements and I wonder how many of them are going to post next month asking what island they should fly to for vacation because they are stressed. I hope there are income qualifications for aid.
So we're means testing disaster aid? Shameful!
not sure if you're being sarcastic or not, but I think means testing is a bad idea here too. It just makes things more complicated, slows down the process, and in the end doesn't save any real money.
Will some people get money that they don't really "need"? Sure. So what?
drummerboy said:
Dennis_Seelbach said:
DanDietrich said:
It is a genuine question. How much FEMA money per year is going to go to floods, fires, storms, etc. I want the government to help everyone who needs it, from the bottom up. That's why I'm against flood insurance for second homes. I don't want anyone who is truly strapped to be denied. I see on FB people filing claims for their basements and I wonder how many of them are going to post next month asking what island they should fly to for vacation because they are stressed. I hope there are income qualifications for aid.
So we're means testing disaster aid? Shameful!
not sure if you're being sarcastic or not, but I think means testing is a bad idea here too. It just makes things more complicated, slows down the process, and in the end doesn't save any real money.
Will some people get money that they don't really "need"? Sure. So what?
We talk about taxing the wealthy as if this community is not fairly well off. (Tax them, not me!) We should step up and take care of ourselves if we can. We, instead, decry a means test because surely we deserve government aid for our wet basements even if it takes resources that should be helping the truly poor flooded out in Louisiana.
DanDietrich said:
We talk about taxing the wealthy as if this community is not fairly well off. (Tax them, not me!) We should step up and take care of ourselves if we can. We, instead, decry a means test because surely we deserve government aid for our wet basements even if it takes resources that should be helping the truly poor flooded out in Louisiana.
what makes you think resources are being taken away from LA?
DanDietrich said:
It is a genuine question. How much FEMA money per year is going to go to floods, fires, storms, etc. I want the government to help everyone who needs it, from the bottom up. That's why I'm against flood insurance for second homes. I don't want anyone who is truly strapped to be denied. I see on FB people filing claims for their basements and I wonder how many of them are going to post next month asking what island they should fly to for vacation because they are stressed. I hope there are income qualifications for aid.
Means testing is a fundamentally bad idea for this just as it is for Social Security. Once you make it means tested, the GOP will call it "welfare" or something of the sort. Totally agree, however, that it should only be for primary residences.
Nice one Mtierney. You give your cat edibles and then post a picture. Are there any depths to which you will not sink?
drummerboy said:
DanDietrich said:
We talk about taxing the wealthy as if this community is not fairly well off. (Tax them, not me!) We should step up and take care of ourselves if we can. We, instead, decry a means test because surely we deserve government aid for our wet basements even if it takes resources that should be helping the truly poor flooded out in Louisiana.
what makes you think resources are being taken away from LA?
If there are 10 people from FEMA here processing claims then there are 10 fewer on the ground elsewhere. Only republicans think that FEMA is overstaffed.
DanDietrich said:
If there are 10 people from FEMA here processing claims then there are 10 fewer on the ground elsewhere. Only republicans think that FEMA is overstaffed.
No, this is DB’s constant refrain that resources, i.e. money, i.e. debt, are unlimited.
Okay, but isn't FEMA broken up into regions? We're in Region 2, Louisiana is in Region 6. Oregon wasn't in Ida's path and is in Region 10, why not pull 10 guys from there instead?
STANV said:
tjohn said:
Tell me Mtierney, in what Christian world, where many people are struggling to meet basic needs, is a 2nd home a necessity?
I am not a Christian but one could argue that not only is it not a necessity it might actually be a sin.
Guilty as charged I guess. Why in the world is having a second home a sin?
sbenois said:
STANV said:
tjohn said:
Tell me Mtierney, in what Christian world, where many people are struggling to meet basic needs, is a 2nd home a necessity?
I am not a Christian but one could argue that not only is it not a necessity it might actually be a sin.
Guilty as charged I guess. Why in the world is having a second home a sin?
Hmmm. I suppose there is an entire different discussion to be had about discretionary resource consumption in a world where so many people aren't really even getting by.
jimmurphy said:
DanDietrich said:
If there are 10 people from FEMA here processing claims then there are 10 fewer on the ground elsewhere. Only republicans think that FEMA is overstaffed.
No, this is DB’s constant refrain that resources, i.e. money, i.e. debt, are unlimited.
actually, no, that doesn't strictly apply here. FEMA has a yearly budget for disaster relief. It itself does not have unlimited funds. However, if FEMA needs more money in a given year, Congress usually gives it to them.
I am not a Christian but one could argue that not only is it not a necessity it might actually be a sin.