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Right thread?  Wrong thread?  So many to choose from...

Good interview with someone who initially leaned toward nan's side, but ended up understanding the complexities of the overall situation better. 

I am getting so discouraged over the unconscionable deadly budget cuts made by Trump et al., that I can barely read the news anymore.   By the time we vote in a new congress in two years, (President in four years) the damage done to the people of the US and in the larger world will be really really bad.  God help us.  

Previous post and accompanying image deleted. Thanks for the heads-up, ml1

At the time of the Cuban Missile Crisis, i don't think there was much hype for seat belts either.  We hope to progress.  Now that there are seat belts and MMR vaccine, we don't have have to simply accept as many deaths/disabilities from either traffic accidents or measles/mumps/rubella.

In the case of seat belts (and child car seats) we're mostly required to act to protect children.  In the case of vaccines, where once people were eager to protect their kids, and schools mostly required proof of shots, we've sadly backslid.  tbh, wtf?

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mtierney said:

OMG, Dems cannot seriously consider this choice for a nano second! He failed and/or was absent as Secretary of Transportation! 

In keeping with this thread….

you honestly can't tell competence from incompetency , can you.

lies from truth?

heaven from hell?

blue skies from pain?

Musical memories

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nohero said:

But don't say mean things about him because he makes the batterieeeeeeees! 

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What I've critiqued are not saying "mean things" but the inability to acknowledging the good things, including storage batteries (if you really care about climate change).

Is it "caring about climate change" to squirm and twist to avoid holding Musk accountable for his role in bringing Trump to power and serving as a top member of his administration?

If this post were addressed to someone who hadn't criticized Musk's support of Trump, what Musk has done as part of Trump's administration and Musk's silence about what Trump has done on climate, it wouldn't be the obvious self-serving piece of nonsense that it is.

The post is addressed to someone who continues to downplay the extent and severity of Musk's actions and complicity. Trump is doing immense damage to the world -- on climate, and in many other areas. You excuse Musk as being not "directly" involved which is both false in many cases (Musk, after all, has been leading the hobbling or even effectively dismantling of the executive agencies whose work is needed for any progress on climate) and hypocritical (Musk is also not directly involved in Tesla these days, busy as he is being Trump's bulldozer, but you you want to give him credit here while sparing him blame for Trump's actions).

Musk is a net negative for human flourishing these days. Tesla should fire him, and no one who cares about climate, democracy, or basic human rights should be defending him.