Tara Reade's Allegation
1. Trump is more than "suspected"
2. Neither really has "ties" to Ukraine.
Are you thinking of voting third-party?
Aren't his "ties" from China?
Also, the # of allegation Biden VS Trump - it's not even close. I actually think his followers appreciate that he sleeps with porn stars. And the fact that it happened shortly after Barron's birth is really no biggie. Who has Biden paid $350,000 to?
I find this refreshingly honest.
STANV said:
I find this refreshingly honest.
not smart politics though. Even if I believe Reade, I figure I have to vote for Biden.
The more I read about this, and the more Reade talks about it, the less I believe her.
Blasey-Ford had one story. One. (not the only difference, to be sure)
Another Politico article about Tara Reade. She sounds like a life-long grifter. Not much in common with Blasey-Ford.
‘Manipulative, deceitful, user’: Tara Reade left a trail of aggrieved acquaintances
A number of those in close contact with Reade over the past 12 years, a period in which she went by the names Tara Reade, Tara McCabe or Alexandra McCabe, laid out a familiar pattern: Reade ingratiated herself, explained she was down on her luck and needed help, and eventually took advantage of their goodwill to extract money, skip rent payments or walk out on other bills.
I'll just say that her accusation of sexual harassment in Biden's office is pretty believable given the half dozen or so other women who had come forward saying Biden's touching made them uncomfortable.
kthnry said:
Another Politico article about Tara Reade. She sounds like a life-long grifter. Not much in common with Blasey-Ford.
Not necessarily lifelong. All the issues mentioned in the article occurred in years after Reade had worked in Biden’s office. If her allegation is true, would it be a shock to learn that it threw her life off course in ways like these?
ml1 said:
I'll just say that her accusation of sexual harassment in Biden's office is pretty believable given the half dozen or so other women who had come forward saying Biden's touching made them uncomfortable.
If all she had said is that he made her uncomfortable, which is what she first seemed to have said, it would make her believable. The fact that no one else of the hundreds of women who have worked for Biden have come forth with anything at all similar to Reade's allegation makes me extremely skeptical.
DaveSchmidt said:
kthnry said:
Another Politico article about Tara Reade. She sounds like a life-long grifter. Not much in common with Blasey-Ford.
Not necessarily lifelong. All the issues mentioned in the article occurred in years after Reade had worked in Biden’s office. If her allegation is true, would it be a shock to learn that it threw her life off course in ways like these?
Is it really a thing that a sexual assault turns the victim into a quasi-criminal?
Would like to see the literature on that.
drummerboy said:
So, does anyone believe Reade now?
It is possible for someone who lies a lot to tell the truth every now and then.
ridski said:
drummerboy said:
So, does anyone believe Reade now?
It is possible for someone who lies a lot to tell the truth every now and then.
OK. You pick which is which and let us know.
drummerboy said:
ridski said:
drummerboy said:
So, does anyone believe Reade now?
It is possible for someone who lies a lot to tell the truth every now and then.
OK. You pick which is which and let us know.
This is why you investigate rape allegations, because even habitual liars can get raped. So if she’s lying about being raped by Joe Biden, an investigation will find that out. But if she’s not...
ridski said:
drummerboy said:
ridski said:
drummerboy said:
So, does anyone believe Reade now?
It is possible for someone who lies a lot to tell the truth every now and then.
OK. You pick which is which and let us know.
This is why you investigate rape allegations, because even habitual liars can get raped. So if she’s lying about being raped by Joe Biden, an investigation will find that out. But if she’s not...
Don't you think an "investigation" has been what's going on in the press? I think the press has been bending over backwards (or had been, anyway) to believe her, but the more they dug, the more her story fell apart.
At this point, there are so many holes in her story that she's simply not believable anymore - even apart from the general diciness of her life over the last twenty years.
Is there some other investigation you want to happen? By whom?
ridski said:
This is why you investigate rape allegations, because even habitual liars can get raped. So if she’s lying about being raped by Joe Biden, an investigation will find that out. But if she’s not...
What is there left to investigate? It's "he said, she said" with no witnesses and a little bit of corroboration on both sides but no real evidence. Those who have already made up their minds are not going to change and those who have not will not be presented with anything new.
Of course a habitual liar can be the victim of a crime but if there is no evidence other than their own statement they are far less likely to be believed.
Suppose their were an actual trial with all of these circumstances would a Jury not find "reasonable doubt"?
STANV said:
What is there left to investigate? It's "he said, she said" with no witnesses and a little bit of corroboration on both sides but no real evidence. Those who have already made up their minds are not going to change and those who have not will not be presented with anything new.
Of course a habitual liar can be the victim of a crime but if there is no evidence other than their own statement they are far less likely to be believed.
Suppose their were an actual trial with all of these circumstances would a Jury not find "reasonable doubt"?
At this point, I doubt that there even would be an indictment, let alone a trial.
Thanks to RT, those of you who can read the subtitles here can see Ms. Reade's allegations in the original Russian. Here’s Tara Reade on Kremlin-owned RT, claiming her accusations weren’t taken seriously because she was opposing Biden. “I see the same tactic being used toward Russia, with anti-Russian propaganda, and towards President Putin himself.” pic.twitter.com/xjUpDRzuq7
It has been interesting to see Biden handle the Cuomo debacle since some of the lesser allegations that have been made against Cuomo mirror those made against Biden (by women other than Reade).
Both men seem to have struggled with personal boundaries. Cuomo's problems have been amplified by his problems with alcohol while Biden's teetotaling has served him in good stead.
When gropers can be referred to as men who “struggled with personal boundaries” all is lost.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations
- 4.1 Jessica Leeds (1980s)
- 4.2 Kristin Anderson (1990s)
- 4.3 Lisa Boyne (1996)
- 4.4 Cathy Heller (1997)
- 4.5 Temple Taggart McDowell (1997)
- 4.6 Amy Dorris (1997)
- 4.7 Karena Virginia (1998)
- 4.8 Karen Johnson (early 2000s)
- 4.9 Mindy McGillivray (2003)
- 4.10 Jennifer Murphy (2005)
- 4.11 Rachel Crooks (2005)
- 4.12 Natasha Stoynoff (2005)
- 4.13 Juliet Huddy (2005 or 2006)
- 4.14 Jessica Drake (2006)
- 4.15 Ninni Laaksonen (2006)
- 4.16 Cassandra Searles (2013)
drummerboy said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations
1 Accusations filed in court against Trump 3 Recording controversy and second 2016 presidential debate 4 Public allegations since 2016
- 4.1 Jessica Leeds (1980s)
- 4.2 Kristin Anderson (1990s)
- 4.3 Lisa Boyne (1996)
- 4.4 Cathy Heller (1997)
- 4.5 Temple Taggart McDowell (1997)
- 4.6 Amy Dorris (1997)
- 4.7 Karena Virginia (1998)
- 4.8 Karen Johnson (early 2000s)
- 4.9 Mindy McGillivray (2003)
- 4.10 Jennifer Murphy (2005)
- 4.11 Rachel Crooks (2005)
- 4.12 Natasha Stoynoff (2005)
- 4.13 Juliet Huddy (2005 or 2006)
- 4.14 Jessica Drake (2006)
- 4.15 Ninni Laaksonen (2006)
- 4.16 Cassandra Searles (2013)
5 Pageant dressing room visits
Most of the dates mentioned were during the decades when he was neither a candidate nor President. The rehashes of his past which surfaced since 2016 were media strikes.
mtierney said:
drummerboy said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations
1 Accusations filed in court against Trump 3 Recording controversy and second 2016 presidential debate 4 Public allegations since 2016
- 4.1 Jessica Leeds (1980s)
- 4.2 Kristin Anderson (1990s)
- 4.3 Lisa Boyne (1996)
- 4.4 Cathy Heller (1997)
- 4.5 Temple Taggart McDowell (1997)
- 4.6 Amy Dorris (1997)
- 4.7 Karena Virginia (1998)
- 4.8 Karen Johnson (early 2000s)
- 4.9 Mindy McGillivray (2003)
- 4.10 Jennifer Murphy (2005)
- 4.11 Rachel Crooks (2005)
- 4.12 Natasha Stoynoff (2005)
- 4.13 Juliet Huddy (2005 or 2006)
- 4.14 Jessica Drake (2006)
- 4.15 Ninni Laaksonen (2006)
- 4.16 Cassandra Searles (2013)
5 Pageant dressing room visits Most of the dates mentioned were during the decades when he was neither a candidate nor President. The rehashes of his past which surfaced since 2016 were media strikes.
you have absolutely no moral center. none. zilch. nada.
mtierney said:Most of the dates mentioned were during the decades when he was neither a candidate nor President. The rehashes of his past which surfaced since 2016 were media strikes.
ROTFLMFAO!!!! What a troll!!!
mtierney said:
Most of the dates mentioned were during the decades when he was neither a candidate nor President. The rehashes of his past which surfaced since 2016 were media strikes.
So what I’m getting here is that if you sexually harass women when you are public servant, that’s bad. But if you sexually harass women before you’re a public servant, then you’re totally qualified to be president, even though it’s pretty obvious you never did stop sexually harassing women nor ever will.
Remember when his wife was bringing up Barron and he was banging at least two women behind his wife’s back (that we know about)? You voted for that guy. Twice. I mean, after you knew that he did, and he never did deny that he did it because he totally did it, but he never admitted or apologized for it, either, because he’s a **** awful excuse for a human being. That you chose, twice.
Opening up the stack — you’re welcome...