Should Breyer retire?

drummerboy said:

cnbc says Breyer is retiring

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/26/supreme-court-justice-stephen-breyer-to-retire-giving-biden-a-chance-to-nominate-a-replacement.html

The retirement news was announced by the media, before the Judge had an opportunity to act himself — protocol? Forgetaboutit!


mtierney said:

The retirement news was announced by the media, before the Judge had an opportunity to act himself — protocol? Forgetaboutit!

um, so what?


drummerboy said:

mtierney said:

The retirement news was announced by the media, before the Judge had an opportunity to act himself — protocol? Forgetaboutit!

um, so what?

Today's right wing nonsense being repeated by the gullible is that Breyer was "forced" to announce because an unauthorized report was made about his retirement.


ridski said:

Smedley said:

What do you think -- what are the pros/cons of Biden pre-selecting a gender/race profile for the next SC justice? 

Any black woman who's made it to a Federal bench is likely twice as qualified as any white man, or they never would be there.

and Biden gets the added benefit of watching millions of white guys' heads explode.  Starting with Tucker Carlson.


mtierney said:

drummerboy said:

cnbc says Breyer is retiring

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/26/supreme-court-justice-stephen-breyer-to-retire-giving-biden-a-chance-to-nominate-a-replacement.html

The retirement news was announced by the media, before the Judge had an opportunity to act himself — protocol? Forgetaboutit!

Blame Mitch McConnell for this. He's the one who has made up the rules in which there is only a narrow window in which a non-wing nut justice can be confirmed.


And, if we want to discuss a Justice being forced out, let's talk about Anthony Kennedy.


Smedley said:

What do you think -- what are the pros/cons of Biden pre-selecting a gender/race profile for the next SC justice?

Pro: Biden, rather than pretend to be an “umpire” judging potential candidates, is honest about his priority desire to address what many see as a glaring, weakening omission on the court.

Con: Voters may not get it.


I like this Joe Biden. Maybe it's his age. Or maybe it's the realization that right wing media will slam him whatever he does. But this Joe Biden apparently has no fucks left to give. 


Wrong party, but former SOS Rice should be on the list…


mtierney said:

Wrong party, but former SOS Rice should be on the list…

why?


Steve said:

mtierney said:

Wrong party, but former SOS Rice should be on the list…

why?

Well, she's a smart African-American woman, but she's never practiced law or heard a case in her life, and she's been involved in some awfully poor decisions in the past. So maybe we just leave her off the list this time around, yeah?


mtierney said:

Wrong party, but former SOS Rice should be on the list…

she's a war criminal.  so the last place she belongs is on the SCOTUS


I don't believe that she even has a law degree (not that that is a requirement to serve on the Supreme Court).


Steve said:

I don't believe that she even has a law degree (not that that is a requirement to serve on the Supreme Court).

apparently she's an accomplished classical pianist, so there's that


of course Rice is nearly 70 years old, and recent presidents haven't been in the habit of giving lifetime appointments to people much older than 50.


Scraping the bottom of the barrel for that token African American to show us they are not racist people. How about Candace Owens? Pathetic!


Everything is in the fine print….

From The Dispatch this am…

  • “Justice Stephen Breyer on Thursday formally announced his intention to step down from the Supreme Court at the end of the court’s current term later this year—on the condition that “by then [his] successor has been nominated and confirmed.” President Joe Biden told reporters he has not yet selected Breyer’s successor, but confirmed he will nominate a black woman for the position—likely by the end of February.”

The Judge might think he has a chance to stay on the bench until he is ready to retire, the way Washington works these days.


Has Rice made any statement condemning Trump's attempt to overthrow the government? If not, then she's not qualified to hold any public office. That's just a general across-the-board rule -- people who support overthrowing the government aren't qualified to serve in government.


mtierney said:

Everything is in the fine print….

From The Dispatch this am…

  • “Justice Stephen Breyer on Thursday formally announced his intention to step down from the Supreme Court at the end of the court’s current term later this year—on the condition that “by then [his] successor has been nominated and confirmed.” President Joe Biden told reporters he has not yet selected Breyer’s successor, but confirmed he will nominate a black woman for the position—likely by the end of February.”

The Judge might think he has a chance to stay on the bench until he is ready to retire, the way Washington works these days.

You just wanted to post one of the cartoons that inform your understanding of the world.

Allow me to spoil your fantasy with a dose of reality.

1.  Supreme Court justices are used to pressure and the public spotlight.

2.  Per point 1, nobody is forcing Breyer to do anything.


tjohn said:

mtierney said:

Everything is in the fine print….

From The Dispatch this am…

  • “Justice Stephen Breyer on Thursday formally announced his intention to step down from the Supreme Court at the end of the court’s current term later this year—on the condition that “by then [his] successor has been nominated and confirmed.” President Joe Biden told reporters he has not yet selected Breyer’s successor, but confirmed he will nominate a black woman for the position—likely by the end of February.”

The Judge might think he has a chance to stay on the bench until he is ready to retire, the way Washington works these days.

You just wanted to post one of the cartoons that inform your understanding of the world.

Allow me to spoil your fantasy with a dose of reality.

1.  Supreme Court justices are used to pressure and the public spotlight.

2.  Per point 1, nobody is forcing Breyer to do anything.

I don't see the logical connection between the excerpt from "The Dispatch" and the sentence "The Judge might think he has a chance to stay on the bench ..."

He announced that this is his last term. If the Senate hasn't approved a replacement, he's not going to leave, because that would leave an empty spot on the Court. It's not that complicated.


mtierney said:

Everything is in the fine print….

From The Dispatch this am…

  • “Justice Stephen Breyer on Thursday formally announced his intention to step down from the Supreme Court at the end of the court’s current term later this year—on the condition that “by then [his] successor has been nominated and confirmed.” President Joe Biden told reporters he has not yet selected Breyer’s successor, but confirmed he will nominate a black woman for the position—likely by the end of February.”

The Judge might think he has a chance to stay on the bench until he is ready to retire, the way Washington works these days.

It's standard for Justices of the Supreme Court to provide for such in their retirement letter.  It would really be great if you had a clue about anything you post.


Steve said:

It's standard for Justices of the Supreme Court to provide for such in their retirement letter.  It would really be great if you had a clue about anything you post.

Correct.

Unless there is a death there are usually no SC vacancies during court sessions. When someone retires its  set up so a replacement can be quickly popped in.

In this specific case of Breyer being replace by someone like minded the illusionary world of right wing politics is pushing this normal event as being abnormal or reprehensible.

Its just more red meat applied to their ignorant and gullible base.


RTrent said:

Its just more red meat applied to their ignorant and gullible base.

e.g., mtierney


I think we can get behind Diamond or Silk for this opening.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diamond_and_Silk


Noticed Sherrilyn Iffil's name mentioned yesterday morning, but by the afternoon as I checked different MSNBC and CNN hosts, her name did not come up. 

Anyone have a favorite from the names floated?

I saw an endorsement for Michelle Childs by Congressman James Clyburn.

I'm pretty excited so looking into the names that pop up.


tjohn said:

Michelle Childs seems like an excellent choice - qualified by any measure.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/04/opinions/judge-michelle-childs-strong-scotus-contender-sellers/index.html

I agree.  We have eight of nine justices with degrees from Harvard or Yale (Coney Barrett's law degree is from Notre Dame).  A bit of diversity in educational background would be a good thing.  


Clarence Thomas would not be on the Supreme Court if he was not Black. George H.W. Bush felt he had to name a Black man to succeed Marshall.

And Barrett wouldn't be there except that she is a woman and Trump had to name a woman to succeed Ginsberg


STANV said:

Clarence Thomas would not be on the Supreme Court if he was not Black. George H.W. Bush felt he had to name a Black man to succeed Marshall.

And Barrett wouldn't be there except that she is a woman and Trump had to name a woman to succeed Ginsberg

speaking of Clarence, he seems very chummy with DiSantis. I wonder why.


has anyone read this piece about Thomas's wife Ginni?

Just imagine if a liberal justice had a spouse like this.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/01/31/is-ginni-thomas-a-threat-to-the-supreme-court


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