Offensive anti Christian bumper sticker
Except that not everyone interprets it as having anything to do with crap or poop.
Actually I think the problem was that the traffic around here on 3rd Street made it so I was in back of this car for quite a while giving me a lot of time to ponder the bumper sticker.
ridski - Jesus would have turned the other cheek. I am not Jesus. This is called the Soapbox though. And I didn't do any shouting and I'm still not shouting, just debating.
meandtheboys said:
Except that not everyone interprets it as having anything to do with crap or poop.
Well, given the "curb your ..." and the anagram between God and dog, it would be hard for anyone who cares to take it any other way. I have NO doubt that the person who designed the bumper sticker took it that way and most likely the person who put it on their car also.
meandtheboys said:
Except that not everyone interprets it as having anything to do with crap or poop.
So mcgoey isn't allowed to form their own opinion on something that touched a nerve because others have a different interpretation?
I am a Christian and it does not offend me. In fact, I generally agree with the sentiment - asserting one's beliefs on others often results in bad things happening...
maresleg said:
meandtheboys said:
Except that not everyone interprets it as having anything to do with crap or poop.
So mcgoey isn't allowed to form their own opinion on something that touched a nerve because others have a different interpretation?
That's quite a leap.
I agree. I doubt lanky that you have an offensive bumper sticker on your car. This bumper sticker was meant for those that do. It was not meant for us.
lanky said:
I am a Christian and it does not offend me. In fact, I generally agree with the sentiment - asserting one's beliefs on others often results in bad things happening...
mcgoey said:
Actually I think the problem was that the traffic around here on 3rd Street made it so I was in back of this car for quite a while giving me a lot of time to ponder the bumper sticker.
ridski - Jesus would have turned the other cheek. I am not Jesus. This is called the Soapbox though. And I didn't do any shouting and I'm still not shouting, just debating.
Forgive me. I admit that I'm an unbeliever but I had this impression that in certain circumstances one who was a follower of his was meant to act as he taught them to. I'm left with the conclusion that this was not one of those circumstances.
I do not, but if I did it would read "My other car is a piece of sh*t too"
oneofthegirls said:
I agree. I doubt lanky that you have an offensive bumper sticker on your car.
My thinking is the conclusion Jesus would have come to is to forgive her for she knows not what she does. We can't assume without talking to her that she denies us anything we could be offended by. It simply is how she feels and she has a right to ask us to stop using bumper stickers that offend her. It was her way of saying she was offended.
Oneofthegirls I don't know whether the she you are referring to is me or the lady with the bumper sticker.
ridiski - I did turn the other cheek and didn't say anything to the lady in the car. I am only debating the "offensiveness" on this board because I think it is interesting and appropriate to do in the soapbox section.
I also see that people who don't understand religion can't see being offended. And, let me just add I am a female member and elder at a local Presbyterian church where everyone can worship, marry and be a minister whether you are man/woman/gay/straight and we are not evangelical at all. I don't like when people group all Christians into one little box of narrow mindedness.
You shouldn't make assumptions about what people do or do not understand about religion.
Mcgoey, I was referring to the bumper sticker driver in front of you. I too am deeply religious and nothing will change my mind. Meandtheboys is so right about assumptions. My take on this is the driver in front of you has no idea of how offensive this is to you. I just wanted to share that I don't take it personally. She was just expressing being offended herself.
Thanks to the Baltimore situation black people are allowed to hit white folks upside the head. Some of us deserve it.
Forget the "preachy" bumper stickers. That's nothing compared with the various religious denominations driving the anti-gay marriage argument in front of the Supreme Court.
To the OP: That's very nice that you clearly stated that your own religious denomination is more than welcoming to gays, etc. But given what many denominations are trying to do why are you "offended" by someone asking a religious person to "curb" their God. It means stay out of others' lives in the form of procreation, marriage, etc.
Strange thread, very strange.
Wendy Lauter
And to add Mcgoey, it is not you she is offended by. Know this.
Art is in the eye of the beholder and so are messages on bumper stickers. What the reader reads into the message on the bumper sticker may be very different from what the user of the bumper sticker had in mind. It is also possible that the driver of the car with the bumper sticker is not the owner of the car and therefore did not put the bumper sticker there in the first place.
I get why some people would be offended by this.
But I also think people should try to see things from the point of view of people with other backgrounds. To take a couple of examples, imagine you're a same-sex couple who wants to get married, or you're a woman who needs to have medical insurance to cover contraception. To those people, it's not a stretch to say that other folks' religiosity is metaphorically crapping on their lives. I don't think the scatological reference is necessarily off base, even if it might be offensive. Instead of being offended at the non-believers who rightfully don't want other people's religions interfering in their lives, perhaps be angry at the people who use your God to mess with other people's lives.
After reading the whole thread--okay, skimming the whole thread, I find the bumper sticker stupid, but I can understand why one could get offended by it. I've been offended by lots of bumper stickers...
Everyone is an atheist in some religion. Pretend the bumper sticker was talking about Norse gods.
joan_crystal said:
Art is in the eye of the beholder and so are messages on bumper stickers. What the reader reads into the message on the bumper sticker may be very different from what the user of the bumper sticker had in mind.
Sounds like the Village Keepers lawn signs.
Sadly this doesn't fit on a bumper sticker for me.
"The dictionary definition of God is “a supernatural creator and overseer of the universe.” Included in this definition are all deities, goddesses and supernatural beings. Since the beginning of recorded history, which is defined by the invention of writing by the Sumerians around 6,000 years ago, historians have cataloged over 3700 supernatural beings, of which 2870 can be considered deities.
So next time someone tells me they believe in God, I’ll say “Oh which one? Zeus? Hades? Jupiter? Mars? Odin? Thor? Krishna? Vishnu? Ra?…” If they say “Just God. I only believe in the one God,” I’ll point out that they are nearly as atheistic as me. I don’t believe in 2,870 gods, and they don’t believe in 2,869."
Hey wait a minute! 
dave said:
Everyone is an atheist in some religion. Pretend the bumper sticker was talking about Norse gods.
I can see how someone of faith might take offense at that bumper sticker. On the other hand, as a Jew, I am angered and offended when I see a "I'm Pro-Life and I Vote" bumper sticker. This is whom the "curb your G-d" message is aimed, not everyone who's outwardly religious.
Defining life as beginning at conception is solely a Christian doctrine, with no basis in medical science. I think it's accurate say it's not a belief accepted by all Christians. To ask that it become law is a blatant violation of the free exercise and establishment clauses of the Constitution. As such, to do so requires amending the Constitution. Due to the capture of the Republican party by Christian religious extremists, such an amendment is in their platform. To add more to their goal of making religious doctrine Federal law, another amendment in their platform defines marriage as only between a man and women.
I'm well aware neither would ever get enough votes to be sent to the states for ratification. What incenses me is the fact these people advocate the end of religious freedom in America, perhaps the most important quality setting us apart from the rest of the world. You can say whatever you want on the back of your car. But the example cited in the OP doesn't advocate taking away anyone's basic freedoms. Pro-life stickers and the Republican platform do exactly that. I never recall a time when a political party had reversing our founding principles in its platform.
ridski said:
Sadly this doesn't fit on a bumper sticker for me.
"The dictionary definition of God is “a supernatural creator and overseer of the universe.” Included in this definition are all deities, goddesses and supernatural beings. Since the beginning of recorded history, which is defined by the invention of writing by the Sumerians around 6,000 years ago, historians have cataloged over 3700 supernatural beings, of which 2870 can be considered deities.
So next time someone tells me they believe in God, I’ll say “Oh which one? Zeus? Hades? Jupiter? Mars? Odin? Thor? Krishna? Vishnu? Ra?…” If they say “Just God. I only believe in the one God,” I’ll point out that they are nearly as atheistic as me. I don’t believe in 2,870 gods, and they don’t believe in 2,869."
LOL. I don't have any bumper stickers, but if that was my car and someone confronted me, I'd probably claim I borrowed the car and wish them a blessed day.
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The part that is offensive is the dog crap/poop aspect of the phrase. But offensiveness is allowed and protected speech, however distasteful, at least to this level.