Comey.
GL2 said:
Open shirt in that fashionable shiny black fabric that I cannot really identify. Same w/pants.
Just caught a clip of that. Cool.
Seems like FBI agents, attorneys and journalists are the new rock stars.
Some cool shots of Michael Avenatti in his race car gear.
mrincredible said:
"The Clinton's" is the possessive use.
If you are talking about the plural, ditch the apostrophe.
OMG! You have blown my mind. I never knew that! Thank you so much for educating me in a way that is not at all condescending.
Actually, I am often typing these things super quickly on my phone or as I scrub out the kid's nebulizer so, if I slip up with an apostrophe or I type Democrat instead of Democratic, it doesn't mean I have some hidden agenda or I am a complete moron, its just that I am multi-tasking. Talking to you knuckleheads is a guilty pleasure that I probably don't have time for but I do anyway.
ETA to add an apostrophe to "kids"
drummerboy said:
"Democrat party"?
Hmm. That's a bit of a tell I think.
Klinker said:
I was reading a while Americans consider Canada to be a socialist paradise it is actually regarded by much of the world as a relatively conservative country.
The Clinton's seem liberal because we judge them by comparison to Reagan and the Bushs but "better than a far right Republican" should not be the standard by which we judge the folks who want to run the Democrat Party,
Klinker posts 311 pages of MOL comments. But this is a tell.
DaveSchmidt said:
drummerboy said:Klinker posts 311 pages of MOL comments. But this is a tell.
"Democrat party"?
Hmm. That's a bit of a tell I think.
Klinker said:
I was reading a while Americans consider Canada to be a socialist paradise it is actually regarded by much of the world as a relatively conservative country.
The Clinton's seem liberal because we judge them by comparison to Reagan and the Bushs but "better than a far right Republican" should not be the standard by which we judge the folks who want to run the Democrat Party,
Given the history of the phrase, it's a little odd coming out of Klinker's fingers.
I don't think I've ever heard a non-Republican use it.
It makes me pause, is all.
LOST said:
Do you mean the "Democratic" Party?
If you're conversing with someone who says "democrat" party, there's really no need to go on.
I think it was Emerson who said something like "I know your sect; I anticipate your argument."
Yes, the Clintons were "awful." All that prosperity; all that center-left smarts. But she was strident and secretive (justifiably so in many cases) and not a cookie-baker. And he was considered our "first black president" by some in the Af Am community before WJC's race gaffes spent all that political capital.
Ironically, WJC was the white working-class president, before DJT snookered the ill-informed and allied with very rich anti-environment, anti-tax, anti-regulation crowd which is currently playing the idiot and looting the country.
Klinker said:
The Clinton's seem liberal because we judge them by comparison to Reagan and the Bushs but "better than a far right Republican" should not be the standard by which we judge the folks who want to run the Democrat Party,
This is the mirror argument of the extreme Right, such as the so-called "Freedom Caucus".
They would say that people like Ryan or McConnell "seem conservative because we judge them by comparison to Obama and the Clintons but ' better than a far left Democrat' should not be the standard by which we judge folks who want to run the Republican Party".
I am not saying you are wrong. I think it's a serious question as to whether either Party is better off pushing a strict ideology or embracing more diverse points of view.
The "Clinton's seem liberal" because they championed liberal causes. Are others more liberal? Sure. So what?
DaveSchmidt said:
GL2 said:It depends on how punctilious with apostrophes he or she is.
LOST said:If you're conversing with someone who says "democrat" party, there's really no need to go on.
Do you mean the "Democratic" Party?
There must be a club for people, pols, and pundits in which they use this secret code word. I believe our boy Rush invented it.
I*'m an old school lefty appalled by the DJT presidency, but I'm starting to develop a bit of sympathy for Comey regarding the reopening-the-HRC-investigation decision a couple of weeks before the election.
The FBI and AG had announced the case closed.
Then they find 1000s of emails on Carlos Danger's laptop (while investigating his penis problem) that might be relevant to HRC case.
Everyone on Planet Earth thinks HRC will be elected and Comey thinks this will illegitimize her presidency when the news comes out after the election and HRC "wins."
What do you do? And what if it leaks the day before the election?
Obviously, my team would keep its collective mouth shut and the red team would announce it.
NEWSFLASH!!!!! CLINTON SUPPORTERS SAY ANYONE WHO DOESN"T SUPPORT CLINTONS IS ********
Got it folks. You love yourselves some Clintons. You are the true Democrats and the rest of us are just a bunch of factionalists trying to destroy the party from within.
Of course.... every four years, AFTER the primary, you need our votes (and heaven help us if we don't give them to you) but the rest of the time we can just take our progressive views and **** ourselves.
Hows that working out for you?
GL2 said:
DaveSchmidt said:
GL2 said:It depends on how punctilious with apostrophes he or she is.
LOST said:If you're conversing with someone who says "democrat" party, there's really no need to go on.
Do you mean the "Democratic" Party?
There must be a club for people, pols, and pundits in which they use this secret code word. I believe our boy Rush invented it.
Ah... dang it. You got me. I am really mtierney. This has all been an elaborate decade long plot to troll you.
Seriously, do you even think before you write this stuff?
I actually had to look up the Democrat/Democratic Party issue on Wikipedia. I had some vague memory that there was a difference but I didn't know what it was. I don't know how that is but I suspect that it has something to do with the fact that I have (with the exception of a couple of years in college) never watched broadcast TV and don't generally listen to talk radio. I now know that this is a dog whistle for you folks but honestly, it doesn't mean anything to me.
Klinker said:
NEWSFLASH!!!!! CLINTON SUPPORTERS SAY ANYONE WHO DOESN"T SUPPORT CLINTONS IS ********
No one said that. When you get a chance to concentrate on this thread rather than "multi-tasking" please review and reconsider.
LOST said:
Klinker said:This is the mirror argument of the extreme Right, such as the so-called "Freedom Caucus".
The Clinton's seem liberal because we judge them by comparison to Reagan and the Bushs but "better than a far right Republican" should not be the standard by which we judge the folks who want to run the Democrat Party,
They would say that people like Ryan or McConnell "seem conservative because we judge them by comparison to Obama and the Clintons but ' better than a far left Democrat' should not be the standard by which we judge folks who want to run the Republican Party".
I am not saying you are wrong. I think it's a serious question as to whether either Party is better off pushing a strict ideology or embracing more diverse points of view.
Has it ever struck you that in our party, you are the folks on the far right insisting that we have to worship your idols? By all means, I encourage you to embrace more diverse points of view.
LOST said:
Klinker said:No one said that. When you get a chance to concentrate on this thread rather than "multi-tasking" please review and reconsider.
NEWSFLASH!!!!! CLINTON SUPPORTERS SAY ANYONE WHO DOESN"T SUPPORT CLINTONS IS ********
What a crock. There are 20 posts directly above this one saying more or less the same thing. There are a dozen threads from back during the election demanding fealty to the Clintons and suggesting that anyone who fails to kiss the ring is, by default, Trump supporter.
For the record, I held my nose and voted for HRC in November. If it comes to it I will do the same thing and vote for Kaine in 2020. I just would really prefer not to have to do that.
Huh?
My politics are pretty far Left. I voted for Bernie over Hillary.
I was trying to have a serious discussion.
Should Dems try to win elections in "conservative" leaning States or Congressional Districts. Was support for Connor Lamb or Doug Jones wrong?
Are we better off with Joe Manchin or a Republican?
DaveSchmidt said:
LOST said:You guys do take the cake sometimes.
Klinker said:No one said that. When you get a chance to concentrate on this thread rather than "multi-tasking" please review and reconsider.
NEWSFLASH!!!!! CLINTON SUPPORTERS SAY ANYONE WHO DOESN"T SUPPORT CLINTONS IS ********
What's wrong with cake?
LOST said:
Huh?
My politics are pretty far Left. I voted for Bernie over Hillary.
I was trying to have a serious discussion.
Should Dems try to win elections in "conservative" leaning States or Congressional Districts. Was support for Connor Lamb or Doug Jones wrong?
Are we better off with Joe Manchin or a Republican?
I don't have a problem with Jones or Manchin in their native states. Try to run them on a national ticket and then we will have a problem. Like I said I held my nose for HRC. I don't think I could do that for Manchin. Could you?
Klinker said:
For the record, I held my nose and voted for HRC in November. If it comes to it I will do the same thing and vote for Kaine in 2020. I just would really prefer not to have to do that.
I do not know why we are fighting. I think there are a lot of folks posting on here who did the same thing as you, that is, held their nose and voted for Hillary.
Of course with Trump's name on the ballot in front of you, you would have to hold your nose in any event.
There are a few ardent Hillary Clinton supporters posting on these threads, one person who calls himself "anti Hillary" and one who makes no secret of his hatred of Hillary and voted for Jill Stein.
Most voted, as you did, for Hillary as the lesser of evils.
Mr. Schmidt's mention of cake got me hungry and it's almost lunchtime. See you.
Klinker said:
I don't have a problem with Jones or Manchin in their native states. Try to run them on a national ticket and then we will have a problem. Like I said I held my nose for HRC. I don't think I could do that for Manchin. Could you?
If the only choice was Manchin or Trump I could.
LOST said:
Klinker said:If the only choice was Manchin or Trump I could.
I don't have a problem with Jones or Manchin in their native states. Try to run them on a national ticket and then we will have a problem. Like I said I held my nose for HRC. I don't think I could do that for Manchin. Could you?
Fortunately, I don't think Manchin is aspiring to higher office. If the Manchin was the Dem nominee and Trump was the Repug, I think it really would be time to find another country in which to raise my children. No one wants to be the Jew who knew they could have gotten out of Germany in 1937 but didn't do it.
(None of which is to compare Manchin to Hitler. I just think that an America in which Manchin was the Dem nominee would have swung so far to the right as to be untenable. There is a virtue in knowing when you have truly been beaten)
"Democrat" party is a learned term. It's unnatural in the context of U.S. history and semantics in general.
Ask any member of the Republic party. Isn't that odd-sounding?
Klinker said:
If Manchin was the Dem nominee and Trump was the Repug, I think it really would be time to find another country in which to raise my children. No one wants to be the Jew who knew they could have gotten out of Germany in 1937 but didn't do it.
No intended allegory here, but you just reminded me: I just finished an incredible memoir from a childhood holocaust survivor: Through the Valley of the Shadow of Death: A Holocaust Childhood.
Her story includes many different places she went to try to escape the Nazis. Poland, Belgium, France, Switzerland, and Italy... an earlier opportunity to go to the US, and a later useless visa to Cuba. And she indicated their different choices at each point, and what happened to those who made the other choice (some for better, and some for worse).
https://www.amazon.com/Through...
On the Clinton question, lots of dems would like her to nurse her wounds in private since she is unalterably tainted for many reasons, including many of her own making.
GL2 said:
"Democrat" party is a learned term. It's unnatural in the context of U.S. history and semantics in general.
Ask any member of the Republic party. Isn't that odd-sounding?
Just spit it out. What are you trying to say here? That I am secretly a Republican? That this has all been a decade long effort to troll you?
Either that is what you are saying or you should just stop posting this garbage because your attempts to cast some sort of conservative taint on me seem (to me at least) to be a pretty pathetic (and inaccurate) ad hominem attack.
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"The Clinton's" is the possessive use.
If you are talking about the plural, ditch the apostrophe.