I cant believe about the Founders

So, my understanding is that some of the Founders - Morris and someone else, did not want to have an impeachment clause in the Constitution, until Benjamin Franklin said something like "Just imagine a sitting President who engages a foreign power to ensure re-election." and with that argument, the Founders included the impeachment clause. Sound familiar?

Speaking of Founders, (most of) the following quote from Alexander Hamilton is like a checklist description of 45:

When a man unprincipled in private life, desperate in his fortune, bold
in his temper, possessed of considerable talents, having the advantage
of military habits—despotic in his ordinary demeanour—known to have
scoffed in private at the principles of liberty—when such a man is seen
to mount the hobby horse of popularity—to join in the cry of danger to
liberty—to take every opportunity of embarrassing the General Government
& bringing it under suspicion—to flatter and fall in with all the
non sense of the zealots of the day—It may justly be suspected that his
object is to throw things into confusion that he may “ride the storm and
direct the whirlwind.”

(seen on Facebook, confirmed in National Archives:  https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Hamilton/01-12-02-0184-0002 )

Theoldtimer said:

So, my understanding is that some of the Founders - Morris and someone else, did not want to have an impeachment clause in the Constitution, until Benjamin Franklin said something like "Just imagine a sitting President who engages a foreign power to ensure re-election." and with that argument, the Founders included the impeachment clause. Sound familiar?

 Gym Jordan has a placard behind him. Maybe Schiff should have a placard behind him referencing this. 

mjc said:

Speaking of Founders, (most of) the following quote from Alexander Hamilton is like a checklist description of 45:

When a man unprincipled in private life, desperate in his fortune, bold
in his temper, possessed of considerable talents, having the advantage
of military habits—despotic in his ordinary demeanour—known to have
scoffed in private at the principles of liberty—when such a man is seen
to mount the hobby horse of popularity—to join in the cry of danger to
liberty—to take every opportunity of embarrassing the General Government
& bringing it under suspicion—to flatter and fall in with all the
non sense of the zealots of the day—It may justly be suspected that his
object is to throw things into confusion that he may “ride the storm and
direct the whirlwind.”

(seen on Facebook, confirmed in National Archives:  https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Hamilton/01-12-02-0184-0002 )

 Pretty smart fella.

Someone should do a show about him.

mjc said:

Speaking of Founders, (most of) the following quote from Alexander Hamilton is like a checklist description of 45:

When a man unprincipled in private life, desperate in his fortune, bold
in his temper, possessed of considerable talents, having the advantage
of military habits—despotic in his ordinary demeanour—known to have
scoffed in private at the principles of liberty—when such a man is seen
to mount the hobby horse of popularity—to join in the cry of danger to
liberty—to take every opportunity of embarrassing the General Government
& bringing it under suspicion—to flatter and fall in with all the
non sense of the zealots of the day—It may justly be suspected that his
object is to throw things into confusion that he may “ride the storm and
direct the whirlwind.”

(seen on Facebook, confirmed in National Archives:  https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Hamilton/01-12-02-0184-0002 )

That is a "right on" quotation!

mjc said:

Speaking of Founders, (most of) the following quote from Alexander Hamilton is like a checklist description of 45:

When a man unprincipled in private life, desperate in his fortune, bold
in his temper, possessed of considerable talents, having the advantage
of military habits—despotic in his ordinary demeanour—known to have
scoffed in private at the principles of liberty—when such a man is seen
to mount the hobby horse of popularity—to join in the cry of danger to
liberty—to take every opportunity of embarrassing the General Government
& bringing it under suspicion—to flatter and fall in with all the
non sense of the zealots of the day—It may justly be suspected that his
object is to throw things into confusion that he may “ride the storm and
direct the whirlwind.”

(seen on Facebook, confirmed in National Archives:  https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Hamilton/01-12-02-0184-0002 )

I appreciate the "confirmed in National Archives"

All but the 'advantage of military habits' seems apt. 

It occurs to me that Aaron Burr was a man who fits some of these categories.  I do not understand why he was so popular in the North and almost became President.  Was it simply being a Northerner (vs. Southerner rivalry.), or was he actually good at the government jobs he did before becoming Vice President?