Christie rocking the polls-what a way to launch his re-election campaign!
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/11/27/trio-of-polls-indicate-christies-numbers-soaring-thanks-to-storm-response/
Agree 100%, says this independent voter who approved of Christie before Sandy.
He did a great job before, during and after the storm, and deserves credit.
But this Democrat will wait and see what else he does, and who he's running against.
But this Democrat will wait and see what else he does, and who he's running against.
He's making a believer out of this Democrat. His praise of Obama won him a lot of support, along with his superb response to Sandy. He's still on the opposite side on a lot of issues central to Democrats, though.
Christie deserves it. He did a great job with the storm. Hope he gets the $30 billion of federal money he requested.
Do people really think Booker will run against him? He'd crush Booker by 30 points.
RVM said:
Do people really think Booker will run against him? He'd crush Booker by 30 points.
Booker may be wise to wait this one out.
Credit where credit is due...and, hey, I'd be much more comfy with CC as a POTUS candidate opponent in '16 than with the freakshow we saw in '12.
GL2 said:
Credit where credit is due...and, hey, I'd be much more comfy with CC as a POTUS candidate opponent in '16 than with the freakshow we saw in '12.
If CC could be himself, I think he would be fiscally responsible and moderately conservative on social issues and most Americans would be just fine with that. The Republican Party primary ends up poisoning a lot of candidates because they have to veer to far to the right that they scare off a lot of the middle ground voters
Christie versus Cuomo. AKA, the election that finally drives the South to secede for good.
Nov 27, 2012 at 6:34am Edited
Cuomo? Why would the South secede when the GOP would have been swept back into power on the back of a Christie landslide? Christie doesn't scare the Confederates- Bloomberg does. The Mayor would take away their devices compensating for their penile inadequacies.
Christie is tarred for life with the GOP die-hards, aka Confederates, because he praised Obama.
And can you imagine how an NY-NJ matchup would play out?
And can you imagine how an NY-NJ matchup would play out?
As we learned this year, Governor Christie cannot effectively run for national office while remaining a sitting governor. A large potential donor base (especially in the financial community) would be unable to contribute to his campaign, due to laws curbing "pay to play" contributions.
jld, we know you are itching for a fight in this thread (but the appreciative liberals who recognize Christie's leadership during the storm won't bite), but at least read before responding.
ktc said:
Christie is tarred for life with the GOP die-hards, aka Confederates, because he praised Obama.
Not a chance. When the time comes, GOP die-hards will fall all over themselves to get Christie on board, Obama praise or not.
johnlockedema said:
Who ran as a sitting Governor this year?????
When Christie was being touted as a potential VP, it was pointed out that he would have to resign in order to join the ticket, or else some of Romney's contributors could not donate more, if their firms wanted to do business with the State of New Jersey.
As he is prone to do, Christie was evenhanded-but he didn't praise Obama, he thanked Obama for helping out NJ with Sandy.
Just for the sake of having a discussion –
This would definitely be the “high water mark” (sorry) for Governor Christie’s poll numbers, given the events of the last month. As those events recede (again, sorry for the flood reference) further back in people’s minds, other issues and concerns will take on more importance.
Christie is going to be very reliant on a Democratic President, and a Democratic Senate, for recovery money, so he may not be the GOP firebrand of the type that the party is looking for right now, on the national level.
Closer to home, Mayor Booker has a lot of factors which make him a possibly winning candidate. One factor is that Christie would find it difficult to outflank Booker on education, in light of the new Newark teachers’ contract, as well as the fact that they seem together on most education issues.
There is still the environment, where Christie caught a huge break when Jeff Tittel of the Sierra Club took the position that there was no difference between Christie and Corzine on issues of concern to the Sierra Club. Their phone solicitors still hear me mention that when they call. Tittel won’t make that mistake again (given that he's been complainning about the Christie administration's environmental policies). Also, more people might now think that there’s something to this “global warming” thing, given the recent unpleasantness.
One reason Christie won last time, was that Adubato sat on his hands in Newark. Booker just put an Adubato ally on the City Council, and in general has his support. So, that will be another difference.
Another issue (now, hear me out) – marriage equality. Booker would sign a bill like the one Christie vetoed. Instead of a Constitutional amendment vote (and the attendant nasty and demeaning advertising campaign against such amendment, as has happened elsewhere), the bill could be passed and signed in January 2014 if Booker won. There are already rumblings that Booker would be the beneficiary of significant national fundraising support, just for this issue alone.
Christie won’t really have a tax cut argument in his quiver, given the economy and the additional costs from the storm.
Anyway, those are just some preliminary thoughts on this.
This would definitely be the “high water mark” (sorry) for Governor Christie’s poll numbers, given the events of the last month. As those events recede (again, sorry for the flood reference) further back in people’s minds, other issues and concerns will take on more importance.
Christie is going to be very reliant on a Democratic President, and a Democratic Senate, for recovery money, so he may not be the GOP firebrand of the type that the party is looking for right now, on the national level.
Closer to home, Mayor Booker has a lot of factors which make him a possibly winning candidate. One factor is that Christie would find it difficult to outflank Booker on education, in light of the new Newark teachers’ contract, as well as the fact that they seem together on most education issues.
There is still the environment, where Christie caught a huge break when Jeff Tittel of the Sierra Club took the position that there was no difference between Christie and Corzine on issues of concern to the Sierra Club. Their phone solicitors still hear me mention that when they call. Tittel won’t make that mistake again (given that he's been complainning about the Christie administration's environmental policies). Also, more people might now think that there’s something to this “global warming” thing, given the recent unpleasantness.
One reason Christie won last time, was that Adubato sat on his hands in Newark. Booker just put an Adubato ally on the City Council, and in general has his support. So, that will be another difference.
Another issue (now, hear me out) – marriage equality. Booker would sign a bill like the one Christie vetoed. Instead of a Constitutional amendment vote (and the attendant nasty and demeaning advertising campaign against such amendment, as has happened elsewhere), the bill could be passed and signed in January 2014 if Booker won. There are already rumblings that Booker would be the beneficiary of significant national fundraising support, just for this issue alone.
Christie won’t really have a tax cut argument in his quiver, given the economy and the additional costs from the storm.
Anyway, those are just some preliminary thoughts on this.
johnlockedema said:
As he is prone to do, Christie was evenhanded-but he didn't praise Obama, he thanked Obama for helping out NJ with Sandy.
I really don't understand why you do what you do.
"...the president has been outstanding in this.”
“The president has been all over this and deserves great credit.”
johnlockedema said:
As he is prone to do, Christie was evenhanded-but he didn't praise Obama, he thanked Obama for helping out NJ with Sandy.
As always, you are wrong.
johnlockedema said:
As he is prone to do, Christie was evenhanded-but he didn't praise Obama, he thanked Obama for helping out NJ with Sandy.
This is funny.
Come on man.
tjohn said:
GL2 said:
Credit where credit is due...and, hey, I'd be much more comfy with CC as a POTUS candidate opponent in '16 than with the freakshow we saw in '12.
If CC could be himself, I think he would be fiscally responsible and moderately conservative on social issues and most Americans would be just fine with that. The Republican Party primary ends up poisoning a lot of candidates because they have to veer to far to the right that they scare off a lot of the middle ground voters
And I guess that when the right has a tough Jersey Guy speaking for them, it's a relief from all those baby-faced Southern christians who look like their testicles haven't descended yet (Ralph Reed, Graham, Bauer, etc)
jld, we're all saying nice things about CC; let's not get all worshipful like lefties do with BHO.
Like the way he handled the storm. Still wouldn't vote for him as I don't agree with his policies. Also don't think he would make a good president, but I am not sure that the reasons for that are a negative reflection on Mr. Christie.
I guess you all missed Christie talking about his support for Romney re: the nice things he said about Obama on Sandy.
Carry on.
And I don't think Obama words would be any more harmful to Christie than what Chris Matthews said was Booker's 'sabotage' of Obama re:Bain Capital.
And as far as Booker vs Christie, Booker isn't loved by the hardcore Dems, but the LGTG crowd will be solidly behind him. Booker is as much of a centrist as Christie, but with a much shallower depth of successes in making Newark a better place than Christie has done statewide. Optically, Booker is great-handsome, saved that woman from the fire, friends with Oprah and the Facebook guy.
Carry on.
And I don't think Obama words would be any more harmful to Christie than what Chris Matthews said was Booker's 'sabotage' of Obama re:Bain Capital.
And as far as Booker vs Christie, Booker isn't loved by the hardcore Dems, but the LGTG crowd will be solidly behind him. Booker is as much of a centrist as Christie, but with a much shallower depth of successes in making Newark a better place than Christie has done statewide. Optically, Booker is great-handsome, saved that woman from the fire, friends with Oprah and the Facebook guy.
I can hardly see in here, for all the smoke you're blowing out of your ass.
Is the LGTG crowd a new one, or a typo? Just wondering as it took me a while to figure out that GOTV wasn't a new cable channel just above Spike.
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